Przecież w tych aukcjach jest jasno napisane że to nowodieły, proszę sobie poszukać o nich informacji albo poczekać aż Pan arcze się wypowie w tej kwestii, ja nie jestem specem od Rosji. Z tego co wiem te bite przez mennicę w St. Petersburgu są nie mniej wartościowe i pożądane jak oryginały, nie pamiętam dokładnie ale wydaje mi się że miały też inne zdobienia na rantach.
Sprecyzujmy.
W aukcjach JEST napisane, że to Nowodieły, ale słowo JASNO jest moim zdaniem dużym nadużycie.
Skoro, jak pan twierdzi, przedmiotem sprzedaży jest nowodieł (jest to jasno napisane), to czemuż ów "jasny opis", praktycznie w 100 % odnosi się do oryginału, a informacji na temat rzeczywistego przedmiotu sprzedaży brak (rok produkcji, mennica itp...)
I czy nie sadzi pan, że to sprzedający wpierw powinien takich informacji kupującemu dostarczyć, a nie wysyłać klienta aby sam sobie szukał...
OK, byłbym w stanie poszukać, tylko czego Nie mam przecież żadnego punktu odniesienia. Ani gdzie wybito, ani kiedy ani przez kogo...
Może prościej byłoby to wszystko.... zamieścić w opisie.
Z forum coinpeople.com o nowodiełach:
Novodels are copies of old Russain coins which were manufactured by mints for over 200 years. The majority of them come from the St.Petersburg mint (XVIII-XIX c) and the Ekaterinburg mint (XIX c). It is also possible that Moscow mint took part in their manufacture during the XVIII c. The manufacture of novodels arose from the legalized practice of making medals to order. In St. Petersburg, this was common immediately after the mint started work again in 1738. In the same way as the cracked medal dies were replaced by new ones, a small number of coin dies were recopied and kept in store in anticipation of fresh orders. In time this led to the appearance of various "hybrids": the more fanciful among them were manufactured illegally by workmen in the mint, who had access to the dies. The novodels had some weak points as far as their technical aspects were concerned (dimensions, weight, metal, standard, edges).As a rule, edging instruments did not survive.
It is possible to divide novodels into the following groups (not counting the "hybrid" combination):
1.late stamping with authentic dies
2.stamping with copies of dies
3.re-stamping with dies cut after previously issued coins, or even after their reproductions in books
4.copying of coins which were produced by mints other than the one involved
5.striking with "borrowed" dies
6.the manufacture of coins which did not exist before
A great many die-copies of all types were destroyed in the St.Petersburg circa 1840, but since then there were two huge issues of novodels in Ekaterinburg, which included coins from other mints as well. Perhaps one of the first "invented" novodel is a denga of Peter the Great, bearing a Latin inscription and dating from 1700. The Manufacture of novodels coins was officially prohibited in the 1870s.